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Thumbs up Here'z another TR report.

Read this guys. This gives substance for us to rejoice and rejoice

2014 Harley Davidson Street 750 ridden
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Another good words and the guy did a wheelie on Street 750..

Seems Crazyy
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Exactly ,"wheelie on a harley" @[email protected]
Well after going thru this first ride review ,the reviewer brings up interesting issue to discuss ,can anyone confirm this ????
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When you put your feet down, your left thigh is precariously close to the cylinder head and can be singed easily. Once the engine heats up, the radiator fan blows hot bursts of air directly onto your legs, which can get uncomfortable on a hot day.
The whole idea of liquid cooled engine was to reduce the heating up of engine especially in crazy stop n go traffics...
He adds on to say our thighs will closer to engine and might get singed ,that's scary...
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yes it seems to be a big issue

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Exactly ,"wheelie on a harley" @[email protected]
Well after going thru this first ride review ,the reviewer brings up interesting issue to discuss ,can anyone confirm this ????

The whole idea of liquid cooled engine was to reduce the heating up of engine especially in crazy stop n go traffics...
He adds on to say our thighs will closer to engine and might get singed ,that's scary...
Talk to the existing Harley owners. Superlow and 883 were extremely hot till the second service. The heat reduces as the bike is used more and more.

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or they just got use to it.
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Exactly ,"wheelie on a harley" @[email protected]
Well after going thru this first ride review ,the reviewer brings up interesting issue to discuss ,can anyone confirm this ????

The whole idea of liquid cooled engine was to reduce the heating up of engine especially in crazy stop n go traffics...
He adds on to say our thighs will closer to engine and might get singed ,that's scary...
Liquid cooling keeps combustion chamber temperatures constant, even in heavy traffic. It has little or nothing to do with how warm or cool the rider is. On many air cooled or air and oil cooled bikes, modern emission tuning drives up combustion chamber temperatures to dangerous levels during stop and go traffic in hot places, to the point where you encounter detonation that can damage the engine. BMW police bikes have to use a second oil cooler with a dedicated cooling fan to deal with this. Air cooled Harley Twin Cams have a cylinder deactivation feature at idle that intermittantly stops fuel injection and spark to one cylinder. With liquid cooling and an adequate radiator and cooling fan you do not have these problems.

As for rider discomfort, old BMW K100s were nick named "the toaster" for good reason. Even at freeway speed so much hot air pours out of the sides of the bike next to your legs that unless you are wearing some pretty thick riding gear on your lower extremities (how likely is this on a 40 degree C Los Angeles summer day) you will suffer first degree burns on your inner calves. V-Rods get kind of toasty around the rear exhaust header in traffic but so far I haven't melted my trousers to the header like I used to do on my old Sportsters.
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ill be honest most motorcycles are pretty hot when stopped

for me its just a matter of how hot

but all of them seem to warm up your legs and thighs to a uncomfortable state.
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or they just got use to it.

No... LOL!!!... This is measurable differance. Engine runs smooth and cool as it runs-in. May be thatz the reason.
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No... LOL!!!... This is measurable differance. Engine runs smooth and cool as it runs-in. May be thatz the reason.
I would have to see hard data to believe that explanation. The fuel air ratio is determined by values in look up tables coded into the bike's ecm. That will not change unless a new set of maps is loaded into the ecm, or components age and wear, which takes many years to happen. Unless you change the values in those look up tables, the same amount of fuel will be burned at the same rpm and throttle position and same coolant temperature or outside air temperature for an air cooled bike, regardless of age. The values are fixed electronically.

Riders grow accustomed to the heat and start to ignore it.

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