10% increase in ex-showroom from april

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basuroy

Discussion Starter · Mar 10, 2014

As per team-bhp (very credible source) , kochi dealer confirmed all Harley davidson bikes will face a 10% rate hike from the month of april. The person didnt specifically ask about street but but all existing models are affected. 10% equates to about 41k in case of street , at the same time it is barely 10 days old so a price hike so soon should not happen. Still prospective buyers , better be safe than sorry and follow up with your regional dealers. I will update this thread tomorrow after calling 2-3 dealers to be on safe side.

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HarleyVest

· #2 · Mar 10, 2014

Wow! Already? If this is true I guess the guys over there should start make up their minds soon with the price increase it might turn some potential buyers off.

basuroy

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 10, 2014

Any idea if the harley line-up at the states is also facing a hike ? 10% is no joke to be honest. I don't expect street to be affected but it will be a bitch move if they raise price before they can offer test ride. And I think it will most definitely turn me off. Fingers crossed.

Livin On

· #4 · Mar 10, 2014

basuroy said:
Any idea if the harley line-up at the states is also facing a hike ? 10% is no joke to be honest. I don't expect street to be affected but it will be a bitch move if they raise price before they can offer test ride. And I think it will most definitely turn me off. Fingers crossed.

could this have anything to do with the changes to Indian tariffs? I do remember reading a couple weeks back that several imported models, or models using imported parts were going to see a 10% reduction, but the article also mentioned that it was at the whim of the current government and things could be subject to change and fast.

Keep in mind I'm not on the ground in India, nor at all familiar with their tariffs, Just something I remember reading through not to long ago...

Santosh kumar

· #5 · Mar 10, 2014

basuroy said:
As per team-bhp (very credible source) , kochi dealer confirmed all Harley davidson bikes will face a 10% rate hike from the month of april. The person didnt specifically ask about street but but all existing models are affected. 10% equates to about 41k in case of street

Hmmm if they hike up on street ,am gonna drop plans of buying it ,will see prizes of other bikes how the fare and upgrade my ride...
Firstly ,we are kept in dark ,when it comes to performance of the bike ,not offering test rides...
Now we are getting slapped with ? 10% hike in ex showroom prices ???

basuroy

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 10, 2014 (Edited)

Livin On said:
could this have anything to do with the changes to Indian tariffs? I do remember reading a couple weeks back that several imported models, or models using imported parts were going to see a 10% reduction, but the article also mentioned that it was at the whim of the current government and things could be subject to change and fast.

Keep in mind I'm not on the ground in India, nor at all familiar with their tariffs, Just something I remember reading through not to long ago...

yes some tax revisition a month back resulted in a price cut but the outcome was around 7k for example in iron 883's case. The 10% hike means iron will cost now 70k more !!! As far as I know this is not tax/gvt. related but harley themselves increasing price. Surprising really as they are already overpriced here.

I will update thread tomorrow if street is affected.
@Santosh kumar
what other option are you considering ? for me there exists none other than this. Below 2 lakhs one has many options but they dont appeal to me(this being a luxury purchase) , over 6 lakhs one again has many options with boneville being my fav but I cant afford that. My budget allows me street , ninja 300 and some hysoung models. I dont like sportsbike so that leaves me with street or bust. :/ Stupid market really - more options in 20lakhs range than 3-5 lakhs lol.

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StoneFree

· #7 · Mar 10, 2014

There are no price increases coming from Harley so the cost increase has to be driven by tariffs. Perhaps the best way to tell is if there is an across the board increase because that would never come from a manufacturer. Additionally Harley Davidson is making lots of profits and a 10% increase even in a single model would be a very high increase that is basically unprecedented.

stude

· #8 · Mar 11, 2014

If it is not just rumors, do you suppose it could be supply and demand? While I am sure that corporate HD is not raising the price, that doesn't mean your local dealers aren't. I can remember several years ago hearing that you couldn't buy a new Harley bike at MSRP. It was always MSRP plus whatever the dealer (stealer) added, and a waiting period of a year or so to get a bike.
I remember in 2005, Ford came out with the new 2 seat "retro" Thunderbird car. They MSRP'd at $42k, but were marked up to $52k on the showroom floor.

sunny_sahdev

· #9 · Mar 11, 2014

This is pure politics, First attract customers with 4.1 lacs and then impose on them 10% hike. Highly disappointing

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harleyhoonigan

· #10 · Mar 11, 2014

sunny_sahdev said:
This is pure politics, First attract customers with 4.1 lacs and then impose on them 10% hike. Highly disappointing

Smart move on their end, they know people want these and charging more for it is something some people wouldn't mind, they just want.

Santosh kumar

· #11 · Mar 11, 2014

harleyhoonigan said:
Smart move on their end, they know people want these and charging more for it is something some people wouldn't mind, they just want.

I doubt it ,coz the product which they are marketing is not assembled here but manufactured here at India with cutting cost in every step of manufacturing like less labor charges ,less cost for indian sourced bike parts and most importantly engine components ,infact everything is built up in india and the final product is not out of this world finish.
People Thot of buying it coz thought of brand and performance ,if they do extortion like this ,potential buyers like me will simply walk away ...
I don't mind loosing my 15k hard earned money than giving up on this lame marketing ...
Wish Ducati was more reliable like other brands in India

I will take a serious look into triumph bikes now ...

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Santosh kumar

· #12 · Mar 11, 2014

@basuroy

Hey bro any luck with enquiry regarding 10% hike ???
In bangalore HD are clueless they aren't aware about it ...

basuroy

Discussion Starter · #13 · Mar 11, 2014

Here in india , there are strict laws which restricts sale of products(especially products in this price range) over MRP. A dealer can always give you a discount (BMW bikes for example are always on discount ) but unless HD officially increases the price , they can't overcharge you . When demand exceeds supply , they simply stop taking orders- fatboy special edition for example has backlogs lasting over 6 months and as such no new orders are being accepted. Normal fattie is available.

I called kolkata and delhi today , spoke with senior management at both place. Both DENIED knowing anything about a hike though they said it in a manner that was not conclusive , one more awesome tidbit - you are charged the price during delivery and you cannot claim the entire deposit back on the ground that price increased after you booked(it is all in TC as per owners) , you will still face a 50% penalty. Delhi dealer however said he doesnt expects street price to face any upwards or downward changes in the next 6 months but it was purely his opinion .

I have asked the originial teambhp source to follow up with kochi dealer specifically regarding street.

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basuroy

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 11, 2014

I suggest everyone who has booked the bike follow this up with your dealer , the part about paying the price during delivery is crucial and you guys cannot back out without paying a 15k penalty on the ground of price hike. Chances are very less so dont lose sleep over it but still better be safe than sorry.

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fkystreet

· #15 · Mar 11, 2014

wish we had laws like that in north america

dealers always sell stuff for over msrp

stude

· #16 · Mar 12, 2014

Are you guys from India saying that the dealer can legally book your bike at a given price and then increase the price at delivery? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

Here in America, once you sign the agreement, the price is set at whatever is on the paperwork. No changes thereafter.

sunny_sahdev

· #17 · Mar 12, 2014

stude said:
Are you guys from India saying that the dealer can legally book your bike at a given price and then increase the price at delivery? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

Here in America, once you sign the agreement, the price is set at whatever is on the paperwork. No changes thereafter.

Yes in India one has to pay the cost of bike whatever it is at time of delivery and not cost booked during booking.

So if there is price hike we would have to pay the higher amount when we take delivery.

This is how it goes in India

stude

· #18 · Mar 12, 2014

sunny_sahdev said:
Yes in India one has to pay the cost of bike whatever it is at time of delivery and not cost booked during booking.

So if there is price hike we would have to pay the higher amount when we take delivery.

This is how it goes in India

Wow, that is not right.
Can you pay in full at the time of booking and avoid a potential delivery increase?

StoneFree

· #19 · Mar 13, 2014

If a dealer is jacking up the MSRP then I'd contact Harley-Davidson Corporate. They really don't like dealers screwing the customers.

basuroy

Discussion Starter · #20 · Mar 13, 2014

It is standard industry norm here , you pay the price during delivery . One can always opt to pay the entire amount during booking and be done with it but that is just inviting trouble , never give them money until you have your hands on the product.

And here dealer's cant jack up the price , if the 10% hike goes though , it will be officially authorised by HD india. As the rumour stands , the hike is indeed going to take place but still no words on if street is affected . My guess is street price will remain the same atleast for 6 months , prolly for a year. It will take an incredibly cheap/greedy company to jack up price within a month of launch .

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