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So I love this bike so far, but I want some more sound. The easy route would be to just get a slip on and call it a day. But why do something easy when it can get complicated and messy? :D

I really like the look of 2 separate pipes, like on the 883. I didn't like the stance or air cooling of the 883 though so I got the 750. Since nothing is available, it made me think there are probably a few different ways to do it:

1. Get a good shop to do it and just pay them. Probably expensive, but I really have no idea. 1000? 2000? Seems like it would have to be around there to pay for the guys time.

2. Make a slip on that branches into 2 pipes. Not sure if this could be made to look right, but it would be simple.

3. Have a guy modify sportster or similar exhaust to bolt on. I see used systems dirt cheap on fleabay. Assuming the piping diameter is the same, could they just bend it appropriately to fit? Or is that oversimplifying it.

What do you guys think?

What diameter piping is used for the headers on our bikes?


Also guys, I know a 2 into 1 is better for performance. If I go a custom route I would probably do a H or X pipe to mitigate the losses.
 

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Hey mate i got the local exhaust place to make me up 2 into 2 drag pipes then wrapped them with black exhaust wrap cost me about $350aud all up pipes are 1 3/4"
 

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Thanks for the feedback guys. I think once I get some spare time I will check out local shops. The diameter is good to know in case I wanna look up what mufflers will fit. Right now I am looking for either a Sportster look alike system or one similar in look to what is one the Victory Octane. So I'll see what local shops quote me for a custom job. I'm in the Philly area so it shouldnt be hard to find a place. If its something around 500, well that would be a no brainer. Anything around 1000 and I might explore other options.

Reace, I think I saw a picture of your bike on the facebook group. Is that it parked next to the white bike? If so it looks fantastic!
 

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Hey mate i got the local exhaust place to make me up 2 into 2 drag pipes then wrapped them with black exhaust wrap cost me about $350aud all up pipes are 1 3/4"
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Which local guy did your pipes for $350?

I’ve just been quoted $1000!
 

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Problem with straight pipes you will lose Torque on the lower end all no gain is noise and maybe a little HP on the very top end of the RPM range. You need some scavenging in the exhaust to run it's best.
Loud don't mean fast , just sounds like it.
 

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Problem with straight pipes you will lose Torque on the lower end all no gain is noise and maybe a little HP on the very top end of the RPM range. You need some scavenging in the exhaust to run it's best.
Loud don't mean fast , just sounds like it.
True.

I too am interested in changing my Screaming Eagle Night Stick muffler to a 2-2 straight through pipe setup.
I was quoted $1000 from a local guy in Melbourne to bend two bits of tube - Where do they get their prices from?!

It's a about time the aftermarket guru's banged their heads together and bring these sorts of things to the people who want them.
Once you've made one set of custom straight pipes for a HDS500, use the jig, replicate and sell.

Sounds like a lot of people are chasing these systems but are put off by the excessive price tag / availability.
It's unnecessary and unaffordable.

Anyone knows of a decent custom exhaust shop in Melbourne Australia without taking out a mortgage, give me a shout as I'm looking to buy.

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StoneFree said they were working on a 2-into-2 a few years ago, maybe they've got something by now? Might want to check.

AR Customs made at least one 2-into-2 for a Street:
https://www.facebook.com/ARCustoms/photos/pb.581176378655973.-2207520000.1417659373./708662765907333/?type=3&theater

In
, someone adapted a Vance & Hines 2-into-2 to work on the Street 750.

DDH in India makes two different systems, the Urban Custom and the Custom Garage. They also have a downturned two-pipe muffler that would give some of the look of a 2-into-2 while presumably retaining the performance gains gotten from a 2-1.
 

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True.

I too am interested in changing my Screaming Eagle Night Stick muffler to a 2-2 straight through pipe setup.
I was quoted $1000 from a local guy in Melbourne to bend two bits of tube - Where do they get their prices from?!

It's a about time the aftermarket guru's banged their heads together and bring these sorts of things to the people who want them.
Once you've made one set of custom straight pipes for a HDS500, use the jig, replicate and sell.

Sounds like a lot of people are chasing these systems but are put off by the excessive price tag / availability.
It's unnecessary and unaffordable.

Anyone knows of a decent custom exhaust shop in Melbourne Australia without taking out a mortgage, give me a shout as I'm looking to buy.

:D
Seems like spending a lot of money to lose power. The Street 750 engine is a higher RPM lower torque. The 2-1 exhaust is designed to bring the torque up on an engine that already is fine in the higher end for HP. Like on the Touring bikes those that go to so called true dual. They think is is better because it is loud, but they really do lose low end torque. The stock system scavenger, it favors one side acting close to a 2-1 exhaust splitting both worlds. I had a Bassani exhaust on mine and it sounded like crap. The pipe sits in the bad idea box. For now it staying stock. Runs better.
 

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I found these online, not sure if its a legit Vance and Hines system but it sure does look similar to Short shots for the Iron 883. The pipes angles are correct from the second image as I compared to stock headers.
 

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I found these online, not sure if its a legit Vance and Hines system but it sure does look similar to Short shots for the Iron 883. The pipes angles are correct from the second image as I compared to stock headers.


Can you tell us WHERE you found them online? and a price please? I'm interested in taking the gamble on these!! Thank you
 

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They certainly look neat. All I can find online is an eBay auction on the Indian site that has ended. I don't think they are genuine V&H however

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I found these online, not sure if its a legit Vance and Hines system but it sure does look similar to Short shots for the Iron 883. The pipes angles are correct from the second image as I compared to stock headers.

These will fit the 500??
 

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Can you tell us WHERE you found them online? and a price please? I'm interested in taking the gamble on these!! Thank you
Escapes Short Shots Para Harley Davidson Street 750 O 500 ? Llanero Sales

The currency is pesos, it isn't in USD as its a company based in Mexico I believe. I'm not familiar with the website.

These will fit the 500??
Any pipes that have the same header design as the 750 will fit the 500. The exhaust are exactly the same as I had to replace the header pipes on my bike with a donor from a 500 onto my 750 and they fit just fine.
 

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I'll chime in on this only because people mentioned the bigger bikes. On the big Twin Cam motors we played with this on a Dyno. I put a set of Vance And Hines on my old Road King, got them free so why not. With stage one loaded onto the ECU we got to playing and with true duals I lost 16 HP and like 6 Two over the stock pipes. We started playing with back pressure by using washers and sticking them into the end of the pipe and adjusting the hole bit by bit and it was **** impressive but we got a whistle going on am my RK started sounding like a VW Beetle with stock pipes. An old desert racer said try this. On the down pipe right before the muffler/ Baffle drill a hol and weld a 3/8" stainless nut to the pipe. And then use a 3/8" bolt with a jam nut and slowly screw it into the exhaust flow making a run on the Dyno each time. Mind you the nut was on the back side not visible. So once we got it dialed it I picked up 7HP and 9tq over stock with the stage 1. And once you sort out the length inserted remove the bolt cut to length and screw it back in so it's hardly sticking out, could even weld it to the nut cut it off so all you have is the nut welded to the pipe. It works on all bikes as I did it to my C90 Boulevard as well when I gutted the stock pipes. So you can run your free flowing pipes but still have back pressure that won't effect loudness of pipes.
 
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