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There's loads of cost cutting :p
So the big question is ,wether the build quality will be same for both indian n US market or there will loads of difference ????????????

I have one doubt for experienced riders ,in the above review there's one picture were the reviewer points out saying the front fender is shorter on the hind side ,so the dirt n gravel which may come off from front tyre may get into the big radiator in the way ,will this affect the radiator ,will it coz any damage ???
Can someone clear this doubt for me ...

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There's loads of cost cutting :p
So the big question is ,wether the build quality will be same for both indian n US market or there will loads of difference ????????????

Hopefully, even if Harley doesn't listen to us, maybe they will pay attention to the journalists and reviewers.
 

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There's loads of cost cutting :p
So the big question is ,wether the build quality will be same for both indian n US market or there will loads of difference ????????????

I have one doubt for experienced riders ,in the above review there's one picture were the reviewer points out saying the front fender is shorter on the hind side ,so the dirt n gravel which may come off from front tyre may get into the big radiator in the way ,will this affect the radiator ,will it coz any damage ???
Can someone clear this doubt for me ...

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I paid attention to this when i was at the showroom and raised the question with the HD rep as well , obviously he said no reason to worry. Anyways I feel that small rocks/gravels can get lodged between the grill , whether they will damage it or not only time will tell since that depends a lot on the quality of plastic used. The outside plastic shroud is there to serve the purpose of a shield , cosmetic damage to it won't affect radiator performance.


BTW notice this guy mentions consistent problem with up-shifting ? that is a first as far as I have noticed . So far every review have been a carbon copy of each other and no one here who have taken the ride has noticed this either , might be a one-off ...
 

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i agree most of the reviews seem to voice the same kind of things

i expected some cost cutting.. but some of them do have me thinking twice
 

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Response from Harley to my comments is very encouraging to say the least!

Comment on FaceBook to Harley India from my side:-

Nice bike if you rectify the brakes at least. I found the brakes on Street 750 poor in test ride as compared to Iron 883 and Royal Enfield Continental GT that comes with BREMBO brakes- the world best.

Reply from Harley side:-

Hi Puneet. We appreciate your concern and we assure you that we are constantly working on improving our products based on customer feedback. Thanks.

Here reply sounds good and encouraging rest God Knows!
 

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I wouldn't get too excited about what a customer service flunky says. That is pretty much a canned statement. He isn't going to tell you "eff off, we build what we build", lol.

Plenty of motorcycles have similar situations regarding coolant and oil radiators in the path of road debris from the front tire. Look at the oil cooler of a V-Strom for example. Haven't heard any of their owners carping about damage to the oil cooler.
 

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That is the very reason I added the words "Rest God Knows!" in the end.

There is also a mention somewhere else about Honda dropping prices on its Shadow bikes. USA scenario is gonna be interesting maybe we Indians see some reasonably priced models being introduced in cruiser segment or Harley dropping absurdly high prices on other models especially SuperLow and Iron but Harley, Difficult!
 

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After reading all the reviews of Street 750 till date and taking a test of it along with other bikes I personally found review by MotorBeam to be most genuine one. It was the only reviewer to point out especially the Vendor of Brakes and Shock Absorbers and lack of grip from those MRF tyres. MotorBeam being overtly critical could be understood as this being a Launch in the year 2014.

Also a comparison with Hyosung and reference to its quality could be understood since I inadvertently tend to compare Street 750 with Royal Enfield Continental GT highlighting latter's tyres, brakes and shocks and difference is glaring if we compare with KTM 390 why to go higher.

Take a relook at MotorBeam review the world first since most of us have had a first hand experience with Street 750. That time we never had test rides or comparison with other bikes.

2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750 First Ride Review | MotorBeam – Indian Car Bike News & Reviews
 

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After reading all the reviews of Street 750 till date and taking a test of it along with other bikes I personally found review by MotorBeam to be most genuine one. It was the only reviewer to point out especially the Vendor of Brakes and Shock Absorbers and lack of grip from those MRF tyres. MotorBeam being overtly critical could be understood as this being a Launch in the year 2014.

Also a comparison with Hyosung and reference to its quality could be understood since I inadvertently tend to compare Street 750 with Royal Enfield Continental GT highlighting latter's tyres, brakes and shocks and difference is glaring if we compare with KTM 390 why to go higher.

Take a relook at MotorBeam review the world first since most of us have had a first hand experience with Street 750. That time we never had test rides or comparison with other bikes.

2014 Harley-Davidson Street 750 First Ride Review | MotorBeam – Indian Car Bike News & Reviews
Good read, good to see your review of the review, thanks for sharing it.
 

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Royal Enfield, lol. Putting premium brakes and tires on a bike with so little power and such a thoroughly outmoded power train and chassis is a waste of money. It is an advertisement for your ego (or is it stupidity?) and nothing more. I have seen R-E's, they are turds on a par with a Ural or Chang-Jiang. The Hyosung is only very slightly better. Just like airhead Harleys, their primary appeal is their country of origin and their partisans will bend and flex like Gumby to defend their pathetically poor performance and antiquated engineering in the face of literally hundreds of vastly better motorcycles at the same or lower price.
 

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@Desert Tortoise, you got to look at it with a different logic. First, Royal Enfield Continental GT comes with a thoroughly new and modern chassis designed by Harris Engineering England and other quality parts and paint job never seen on a Bullet.

Secondly, I would agree with your view point if I was in USA where Enfield Continental GT is priced at $ 6000 and Street 750 at$ 7500. Better engine one gets in Street.
But the scenario is totally opposite in India where Street 750 is around $ 7000 and Royal Enfield Continental GT with same specs as one available in USA is priced at just $ 3000!

Thirdly, if a $ 7000 bike comes with same vendors as available on a $ 3000 and some of the vendor base of former not matching upto the standards set in Latter for peanut of a price then comparisons are bound to happen. Especially if the price of consumables like Disc Pads and fork seals from Indian vendors is Harleyed.

You can understand the scenario when Harley asks $ 335 for a pair of MRF tyres available at its showroom when normally tyres from that brand are available for $ 60. All that for nylon tyres with no speed rating competing in price with Michelin Pilot range of tyre available for high end bikes.

Normal Bullets are available at far lesser price than Continental GT. Moreover in India we don't have roads where one can touch speeds 80-100 MPH. We are happy cruising at 70-80 Kmph because Indian roads and ever increasing population doesn't allow us to go faster.

This is different scenario and different logic. Just like air cooled Harleys enjoy a cult status in USA Enfield Bullet commands a Cult status in India.

It's India where Harley's are sometimes referred to as Glorified Bullets! Both pushrod thumpers with antiquated technologies but have been refined with time.
 

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To understand the craze for Bullets in India listen to this Punjabi song on YouTube:-


Bullet v chammak challo

Search for above song in YouTube. Song is in Punjabi Language.
 

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The continental gt at 2 lakh Inr is considered overpriced here and the brand name is the biggest selling point and not engine performance( have not seen many on road so doubt they are selling that well though ).

The harley costs 4.5 -5 lakh depending on state . Abroad both are similarly priced which baffles me as to why anyone will pick an enfield for 7k+ $ when you can also get a harley or bonnie in the same ballpark not to mention dozens other option .
 

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I have seen the Continental GT. I is a 1970's era piece at best, like something someone would build out of a big Yamaha or Honda single. You're hanging premium brakes, shocks and tires on something that barely has enough power to peel a grape. Sure it is pretty, but there are a hundred bikes it's displacement or less that are better motorcycles. It's about nostalgia and nationalism, just like a Stuporglide or Harley bagger in the US. You certainly don't buy one because they are good in the sense of how they operate on the road. They are not good at all.
 

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Harley must be making serious profits on the Street line of bikes. Going by labour cost alone in USA one Earns as per law a minimum of $ 10 per hour. An 8 hour day would bring it to $ 80 per day and that's minimum wages.

If you Compare that to Indian situation where a person on Harley's Street assembly would not be making more than $ 300-$400 per month and I am being too optimistic in the quoted Indian salary.

A 5 day salary of a worker in States equals to a months salary of an Indian worker. Factor in the fact that almost 60% of bike is Indianised and there would be similar cost savings in the ancillary as compared to them being manufacture in any First World Nation! And going by the bookings numbers of Street 750 close to 1000 till date in India alone there are serious economies of scale. Parts for bikes sold in USA would go from India. It's gonna be a CKD Assembly over there.

Still if Harley cuts corners and does not provide quality then; I guess u all get an Idea.
 

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In Harley Middle-East website there is mention of 883 Roadster. This bike makes a lot of sense for India if Harley introduces it here and positions it between Street 750 and 883 SuperLow.
People who are apprehensive about quality offered in Street 750 but are reluctant to go pay more for SuperLow would have another choice in between the two Harleys.

P.S.- 883 Roadster was slotted before SuperLow so I assume former would be cheaper.
 
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