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So like I said here last night , I visited the showroom again today and met the manager who was absent last time. First thing he did was fire up the bike , I recorded about 30sec but it turned out bad . Still gives you a nice idea of what to expect - closer to a boneville than a iron . And yes accounting for modern demands and regulations , it is loud . Yes it sounds good , it wont be a deal breaker in any case.

THey failed to offer any other info , 65nm of torque at 4k rpm is the only one offered. No idea about gear ratios , top speed , acceleration from 0-60/100 etc etc. It is boderline ridiculous harley has failed to educate their dealers about specs!!!


Sorry for bad quality again , my phone sucks and I was pretty excited then . Vibration present in idle and increases on revving , no idea whether it might prove uncomfortable over long distacne but tolerable otherwise.

CLutch is light , brakes are 70-30 . No ABS even as accessories.

Bike only starts in neutral , cant depress clutch and start in gear , handle lock and ignition are done at same lock which is good. Plastics here and there , cost cutting all around.
 

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It really is not that wheezy on revving as it sounds in the vid , there was some throaty thump present. Believe me this vid sucks bigtime but I hope it gives you an idea.
 

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So like I said here last night , I visited the showroom again today and met the manager who was absent last time. First thing he did was fire up the bike , I recorded about 30sec but it turned out bad . Still gives you a nice idea of what to expect - closer to a boneville than a iron . And yes accounting for modern demands and regulations , it is loud . Yes it sounds good , it wont be a deal breaker in any case.

THey failed to offer any other info , 65nm of torque at 4k rpm is the only one offered. No idea about gear ratios , top speed , acceleration from 0-60/100 etc etc. It is boderline ridiculous harley has failed to educate their dealers about specs!!!

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Sorry for bad quality again , my phone sucks and I was pretty excited then . Vibration present in idle and increases on revving , no idea whether it might prove uncomfortable over long distacne but tolerable otherwise.

CLutch is light , brakes are 70-30 . No ABS even as accessories.

Bike only starts in neutral , cant depress clutch and start in gear , handle lock and ignition are done at same lock which is good. Plastics here and there , cost cutting all around.
Thats great :D
Its not that authentic HD growl ,but again not bad at all great job there bro :cool:
so whats it gonna be ,did u book the bike ?
wow i heard with in ear head phones it actually sounds great & has its own character actually :)
 

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Yes I will book it after test ride next month because I liked the seating posture and ergonomics and also because no other option exists in my budget except ninja 300 which I dont like .

Vibrations were light but present at the handle on idle as well as under revs , it will decrease slightly when in motion but might prove an issue for some. Not anything major though ...

It sounds A LOT better in real life btw , it will turn heads atleast in India I can assure you that.
 

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Sounds like my Street Rod, which I happen to like a lot. So far so good. Not being able to start the bike in gear with the clutch in, however, is unacceptable if that is indeed the case. Whomever came up with that stupid idea never parked a motorcycle on a steep San Francisco hill where you always park your bike in gear and may not be able to get it out of gear if the bike rolled until the gears in the transmission held the bike, or stalled a bike at a traffic light.


Imagine having to find neutral, or not with a stalled engine, before having to start the bike and take off. Good luck with that.
 

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Sounds like my Street Rod, which I happen to like a lot. So far so good. Not being able to start the bike in gear with the clutch in, however, is unacceptable if that is indeed the case. Whomever came up with that stupid idea never parked a motorcycle on a steep San Francisco hill where you always park your bike in gear and may not be able to get it out of gear if the bike rolled until the gears in the transmission held the bike, or stalled a bike at a traffic light.


Imagine having to find neutral, or not with a stalled engine, before having to start the bike and take off. Good luck with that.
yep it is the case and the dealer even demonstrated it and yes it is really stupid . Even 100cc commuter bikes have this feature if it can even be called that , I thought it was the standard norm . Any reason why they made it differently ?
 

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Are you sure coz that's absurd ,why will anybody design it that way ???
Seriously it will be annoying to neutral the bike every time u have to fire the engine ,more wear n tear of clutch & will require over hauling very soon i guess :(
Adds to more maintenance...
Or the manager got it all wrong or something ,coz as you mentioned everybody in the showroom had below par knowledge of the bike...
 

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Not sure why it is like that , he did put the bike in gear and showed me how it won't start(with clutch depressed) . He then shifted down to neutral and it started in a single push .

Shifting down to neutral can be a royal pain in traffic , this bike is supposed to be designed for urban traffic so it makes no sense. Unless defective bike , I think this is how it is gonna be.
 

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Great Job!! Bro atleast you could get us the exhaust note. I have a feel after looking at the fit and finish of the display bikes they have been put up very hurriedly and the test/production one will be a lot different else why have they delayed the test? They have the bikes is display and after a week passing by I don't feel lot of people are coming to have a look at the bikes. They can very well manage rides also. Seems like we should be ready for a nice surprise.
 

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If the bike does not start in gear I will have to reconsider my booking. Seriously.

Eh, I am quite certain there is a simple way around that "feature".

It does surprise me though, as Harley doesn't even have side stand switches on the bikes they sell in the US like most bikes have. On my Street Rod you can easily poke the starter to life with the bike in gear on the side stand. Don't ask me how I know this .... :rolleyes:
 

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Are you refering to the safety switch on the kickstand? I know most people remove them anyways.
 

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Uh, don't like the fact you can't start the bike in gear, that could/can be dangerous IMO. Wonder if that is some kind of regulation in India or something.:confused: If the bikes sold here in the US are like that, I'm afraid I'll have to pass.

**** HD, my little Honda Rebel will start in gear with the clutch pulled in...:rolleyes:
 

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Perhaps it was indeed poor recording...but it just doesn't sound like the authentic throaty Harley sound. I'm actually a bit disappointed; especially since I've booked an order and really don't want to be saddened with my first Harley being a bit of a downer. I suppose I'll just have to judge for myself when the dealers get them here in NY.

Thanks for sharing!
 

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The neutral safety switch can undoubtedly easily be bypassed. Not a big deal at all, I think.
If you want the "traditional" Harley sound, you should buy an air cooled model (Like the Iron). I suspect the Street will sound like a VRod, and I really like the VRod sound. I really don't think you all will be disappointed.
 

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Uh, don't like the fact you can't start the bike in gear, that could/can be dangerous IMO. Wonder if that is some kind of regulation in India or something.:confused: If the bikes sold here in the US are like that, I'm afraid I'll have to pass.

**** HD, my little Honda Rebel will start in gear with the clutch pulled in...:rolleyes:
no we have no such regulation , commuter 100c bikes costing a fraction of the street have this "feature". My dad was of the opinion that HD had prolly tampered with the transmission of the display bike so that one cant ride it , I think it will be the case in the delivery models as well(because I put the bike in gear and tried to move it , it didnt so clearly gear was engaged. I also tried starting it in gear and it didnt) :/

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Look at it this way - do you want sound at the cost of an engine designed in 80s based on pre WW tech or do want a bike with a motor that can be called engineered with 21st century tech but not the same exhaust note(it is a lot better than the vid though ). There is nothing wrong with either , go with what your hear wants but all I'm saying is the street has its advantages as well. BTW here in india , the triumph bonnie costs a lot more but if it is in the same ballpark as street over there , I will suggest you test ride/consider both options.
 

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I've been around bikes all my life, and was taught from young to always leave it in 1st gear while parked, and shift into neutral before starting.
 

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I've been around bikes all my life, and was taught from young to always leave it in 1st gear while parked, and shift into neutral before starting.
I own a kickstart enfield so anything is an improvement , but I guess the situation where this can become an issue is if the bikes stalls in traffic . Parking it shouldnt be an deal breaker though it is a very weird thing , I'm not sure I have seen this in any other bike except for really cheap(and old) 75-100cc commuter bikes and mopeds. It surely can't be a cost cutting technique right ?
 
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