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Just wanted to let those who are using the FP3 on their Street Rod they just updated the firmware to include both idle and redline RPM adjustments.

I personally lowered the fully warm idle RPM to 1050 (last 2 cells) and raised the redline to 9500. I should be able to ride today to test this out if it warms enough.
 

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They also updated the app for the iPhoneX which is good because the screens were a bit f'd up when I tried to use it with my new phone.
 

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Ooh, I like the idea of lowering the idle speed, it always seems too fast even when warm.
Getting closer to buying it.
 

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The idle adjustment feature worked great-1100 seems like the sweet spot. The redline adjustment......not so much. I moved it to 9500RPM. The bike wouldn't rev over 6500 no matter what adjustments I made. I even flashed an old tune into the bike and then back to the one I was running. I have an email into my CSR rep at V&H's. We'll sort this out.
 

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Ah, that's a bit concerning then Scooter, I mean only revving to 6 and a 1/2, what does it think it is, a Harley?
 

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I'm pretty much done with the FP3. I have ordered a Power Vision kit from FuelMoto and will be taking the bike to the selling dealer for a dyno tune.
 

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Give us all the lowdown Scooter, have you had no joy from V&H, FP3 suffered a meltdown or what? I'll google Power Vision in the meantime!
 

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The FP3 tune I used on my Street 750 opened up the rev limit by about 500 RPMs. I didn't try to manually adjust it beyond that.

(And just to be the warranty nag, since you're both talking about 2017 models, just be aware that using the FP3 or PowerVision or any such tuning product will immediately void your factory warranty on a 2017 or later Harley).
 

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My selling dealer has a don't ask don't tell policy with their customers. This was clarified with the service manager. I have dealt with them for years. He told me just don't say anything to corporate and they won't.
 

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That's a pricey piece of kit at $549.
I bought it for $365 during their cyber week sale. When Jamie went to install the canned tune he noticed it was for a Street Rod. He called me and said they don't have a tune for that model-only the Street 750. My tuner of choice would have to start from scratch. I cancelled the order. I am going to give V&H's a chance to get this sorted out. They are looking over my tune as I type this.
 

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I bought it for $365 during their cyber week sale. When Jamie went to install the canned tune he noticed it was for a Street Rod. He called me and said they don't have a tune for that model-only the Street 750. My tuner of choice would have to start from scratch. I cancelled the order. I am going to give V&H's a chance to get this sorted out. They are looking over my tune as I type this.
Right, that sounds like a can of worms you would have opened there Scooter if you had gone ahead. I'm sure V&H will get this bug sorted out soon, they are as you well know a helpful bunch. Keep the updates coming mate.

(And just to be the warranty nag, since you're both talking about 2017 models, just be aware that using the FP3 or PowerVision or any such tuning product will immediately void your factory warranty on a 2017 or later Harley).
Cheer's for the info Gaijin, I shall have to spirit my FP3 away come my Street Rod's one and only service from Harley, which I am only letting them do, due to the warranty. Considering the first service would seem to consist of an oil change, plus a bloke walking round the bike with a torque wrench, I feel that £230 is taking the p*ss for a half hour job at the most
 

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V&H's is still working on my tune. Seems they were very busy yesterday.

I'd be interested to hear any feedback from other users if they had issues with the rev limiter setting.

There was another user that is using a canned tune that said the rev limiter was set at 12000RPM!! I have asked if this was before or after the firmware update. I think the rev limiter may be an issue with others as well.
 

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12 K ? I have images of flywheels bursting out of crankcases! That is some serious error.

The case for dropping the tick over RPM is a good one, I've never had a bike tick over that fast before. Any Street owners reading this, what is the Streets' tick over set at?

Can't say I have thought of adjusting the rev limiter. Going by S&S's graph on the Stealth Air webpage, everything pointed to the Street Rod achieving what they promised within the standard limit. What were you hoping to improve on Scooter, or was it a case of 'suck it and see'?
 

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Every bike I have is tuned, they all go 1000RPM over stock redline and can handle it or the tuner wouldn't let it go that high. You just bounce off of it less. Plus, if it's tuned well you will make usable power all the way there.

These erroneous numbers I am hearing as well as how mine reacted is telling me that there is a coding issue on V & H's end. The person I was referring to that saw his redlin set at 12000 has not ridden the bike since the new tune was loaded in. I made him aware of my issue.
 

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Cheer's for the info Gaijin, I shall have to spirit my FP3 away come my Street Rod's one and only service from Harley, which I am only letting them do, due to the warranty. Considering the first service would seem to consist of an oil change, plus a bloke walking round the bike with a torque wrench, I feel that £230 is taking the p*ss for a half hour job at the most
Ah -- it appears my America-centric viewpoint may not apply to you! If you're in England you're not subject to our EPA decree that Harley had to sign, so it's entirely possible that an FP3 may not void your warranty over there. Check with Harley, but you may be fine.
 

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So your XR1200 can pull what 7 1/2 Scooter? What does she do top end wise?
I have it set for an 8K rev limiter though never take it there. According to GPS I have had it up to 136MPH.

Seems I'm not the only one that has contacted V&H's about the update. Here is a snippet of one of the emails from my CSR at V&H's

"As my fuelpak manager brought it up to our attention that is correct. You are definitely not the only one. They're working on rolling out another update."

This was in response to me telling him about the fellow I was talking with on another forum. So, we sit and wait. It's no down into the 30's here for highs so I'm in no rush.
 

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Hi Scooter/Phil
I am on the verge of pressing the button for S&S stealth filter and V&H fuel pak 3 for my street rod.
Revzilla will ship ( without fancy S&S cover, will get one made an painted to match the bike ) for about £435.00 and anything I may get stuck for in customs. Still seems to be cheaper than I can buy in the UK.
Question is, I read about issues you have been having Scooter, is it something you would recommend ? I am not interested in raising the rev limit, but would like to lower the warm idle as you did. Should I press that button for V&H ? :)
 

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Hi Steve, how's life?
If you're just fitting these two and not the Grand National muffler, S&S have a graph on the Stealth page which will show you the gains you can expect. I personally haven't had any probs with the FP3, but then again, I've not bothered to try and adjust the cold idle. I have been running on the V&H map of standard a/f + comp muffler with baffle. I haven't bothered to autotune this as she run's fine, and I doubt it would result in any noticeable difference.
I'm sure Scooter will be along soon to share his woes! I think he said V&H were still working on the high rev problem but every thing else was ok.
Let me know how you get on. I'm quite curious to see what your bike's performance is like without the GN muffler.
 
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