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In the last couple of days there has certainly been a TON of nontraditional harley stuff popping up, I for one think thats fantastic. Frankly this XR1200 custom tickles everything the proper way, I would be head over heals to see harley get back into REAL road racing. Imagine a Factory GP team again promoting and developing young AMERICAN riders, which seem to be going extinct in terms of world class talent...
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Harley-Davidson XR1200TT by Shaw Speed & Custom
Harley-Davidson XR1200TT by Shaw Speed & Custom
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That bikes look sick. I love what they have done with the shape of the fairing, and the Harley Davidson coloring is also excellent. Do you really think that Harley could be trying to get into motoGP racing again? It certainly would be nice to see an American motorcycle company competing at that level once again. Why let Japan and Europe have all the fun?
I don't realistically, but why not dream a bitThat bikes look sick. I love what they have done with the shape of the fairing, and the Harley Davidson coloring is also excellent. Do you really think that Harley could be trying to get into motoGP racing again? It certainly would be nice to see an American motorcycle company competing at that level once again. Why let Japan and Europe have all the fun?
I hear you on that one.
Man I would love for this to happen..
Man I would love for this to happen..
I am thinking that the likelihood of Harley Davidson doing something racing related, especially GP, or sport bike anything is pretty slim, considering they shut Buell down, and that's exactly what Buell was. Racing, sport bikes, and trying to introduce younger generations to Harley Davidson.
Nope, they will continue trying to sell everyone 600lbs motorcycles, with the Street 500/750 being entry level bikes. I think they will be screwed when the bagger fad is over, they run all their brand loyal employees off, and they have rode the marketing wave as far as it can go.
Nope, they will continue trying to sell everyone 600lbs motorcycles, with the Street 500/750 being entry level bikes. I think they will be screwed when the bagger fad is over, they run all their brand loyal employees off, and they have rode the marketing wave as far as it can go.
Check out the xr 1200 owners website,plenty of racing news over there
i also agree that expanding their participation in world racing events would be good for them. many of the jap and other bikes that are sold today, are the results from prototype racing bikes that they later sell to enthusiast everday riders as production models.
HD does have a bit of an advantage with their history, because many potiential buyers worldwide would buy a Harley just for a piece of Americana.
there will always be a market for their big baggers, especially in this country. but with the world population being much younger than in this country, plus the regulations in other countrys that restrict large displacement bikes, HD's future depends on making and selling what potiential buyers outside this country wants and are able to buy.
they kinda hit a home run world wide with these street models, but you cant compete in a game with only one hit! it takes agressive and competitive participation, new models frequently, not a laid back lazy and slow or we're not interested approach in todays very competitive markets. IMO
wake up HD or die a slow death....:crying:
HD does have a bit of an advantage with their history, because many potiential buyers worldwide would buy a Harley just for a piece of Americana.
there will always be a market for their big baggers, especially in this country. but with the world population being much younger than in this country, plus the regulations in other countrys that restrict large displacement bikes, HD's future depends on making and selling what potiential buyers outside this country wants and are able to buy.
they kinda hit a home run world wide with these street models, but you cant compete in a game with only one hit! it takes agressive and competitive participation, new models frequently, not a laid back lazy and slow or we're not interested approach in todays very competitive markets. IMO
wake up HD or die a slow death....:crying:
It'd be nice to get an Indian/Harley rivalry again. Competition drives innovation. Or it should. As it stands though, outside of 1200 motors (and possibly the VROD) all their other big motors have problems when you start squeezing power out of them. Look at their twin cams. The timing chain shoes on those get chewed up. S&S sells a kit to make it gear driven, when Victory/Indian have been doing that stock for a while.
Granted, a race team would be doing a lot more than that to a motor. And I'd love to see HD throw that money at some kind of innovation.
I love the way a lot of stripped down Harleys look and sound. I just wish that they had the teeth to back it up. Still, with the Street, the V-Rod and maybe the Livewire, we might see a few things that will slowly push HD into the late 20th century.
They have been absolutely slaying on the flat track scene for quite a while though, so there's something.
Granted, a race team would be doing a lot more than that to a motor. And I'd love to see HD throw that money at some kind of innovation.
I love the way a lot of stripped down Harleys look and sound. I just wish that they had the teeth to back it up. Still, with the Street, the V-Rod and maybe the Livewire, we might see a few things that will slowly push HD into the late 20th century.
They have been absolutely slaying on the flat track scene for quite a while though, so there's something.
Very cool. There will always be those willing to take Harley to a different place, it's just a matter of whether or not Harley wants to do it themselves, but their entire history is making a platform of very similar bikes that have interchangeably between them that they offer at ridiculously inflated cost. Even the Street is that way. Indian is a non issue, they'll never be true competition to Harley again.
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